PAIN TRIGGERS
Praise for AI taking longer ("long time horizons") is misguided and easy to game.
AI community buys into easily gameable non-indicators like time taken.
SaaS· Hacker News commentersPain 6.00/10WTP 5.0/10Market 7.0/10Validation 6.0Confidence 62%May 5, 2026
TrueEval: Anti-Gaming AI Benchmark Platform
Current AI benchmarks and claims heavily rely on easily gamed metrics like extended processing time framed as "long time horizons," leading to skepticism and difficulty in accurately assessing true intelligence and task performance.
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STAGE 01 · PROBLEM
Is the problem real?
CANONICAL PROBLEM
Skepticism that "extended time horizons" is a meaningful or non-gameable metric for LLM/AI agent capabilities, as longer processing time is not inherently impressive or intelligent.
FREQUENCY
Limited repetition signal.
INTENSITY
Users explicitly describe existing tools as bloated/overkill and mention workaround behavior.
EVIDENCE
Ask HN: Why would we care about "extended time horizons" and LLMs?
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"It is I the human, not the AI used by me, that would have taken 2 hours."
commentYou have a common misunderstanding of what is meant by "time horizon". This is not "how long does AI take to do ${thing}", it is "how long does *human* take to do ${thing}, where ${thing} is from the set of things that AI has probability = n of getting right", where n happens to be 50% or 80% in the METR studies. At least, that's the short answer, here's a video with more depth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evSFeqTZdqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evSFeqTZdqs) My experience is the AI actually completes the task in a few minutes, when it was a 2-ish hour task and the AI has a time horizon of 2 hours at P(correct) = 0.8. It is I the human, not the AI used by me, that would have taken 2 hours.
"You have a common misunderstanding of what is meant by "time horizon"."
commentYou have a common misunderstanding of what is meant by "time horizon". This is not "how long does AI take to do ${thing}", it is "how long does *human* take to do ${thing}, where ${thing} is from the set of things that AI has probability = n of getting right", where n happens to be 50% or 80% in the METR studies. At least, that's the short answer, here's a video with more depth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evSFeqTZdqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evSFeqTZdqs) My experience is the AI actually completes the task in a few minutes, when it was a 2-ish hour task and the AI has a time horizon of 2 hours at P(correct) = 0.8. It is I the human, not the AI used by me, that would have taken 2 hours.
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STAGE 02 · CUSTOMER
Who feels this pain?
TARGET USERS
Hacker News commentersA I Researchers And Developers
Hacker News-active AI engineers and researchers building or assessing agents who distrust hype metrics like "long time horizons".
Context
Accurately evaluate and benchmark true AI intelligence and task performance without hype or misleading indicators.
Current Workarounds
Manually dissecting papers and demos for hidden gaming tricks
Running ad-hoc personal evals with custom prompts
Relying on community debates on HN instead of standardized tests
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STAGE 03 · MARKET
Where's the gap?
EXISTING SOLUTION GAPS
Time horizon framing confuses AI processing time with human task duration.
Metrics like processing time, tokens burned, or CPU cycles can be gamed and do not reflect intelligence.
OPPORTUNITY & VALUE
Why Now
Multiple quotes and complaints on HN-style discussions targeting the same flawed "long time horizons" framing despite some counter-explanations.
Value Proposition
Explicitly designed to detect and penalize time-based gaming unlike standard leaderboards that reward longer "thinking" time.
Product Direction
A web platform for creating, running, and sharing non-gameable benchmarks that focus on verifiable outcomes, multi-turn reasoning quality, and resistance to simple delays or token manipulation.
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STAGE 04 · BUSINESS
How does it make money?
MONETIZATION
$29/moFor individuals and small teams
Model
SaaS subscription
WILLINGNESS TO PAY
Practitioners already invest significant time debunking misleading metrics on forums; a reliable tool saves hours per evaluation cycle and supports credible claims when raising funds or publishing.
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STAGE 05 · EXECUTION
How do you ship it?
MVP PLAN
“Run trustworthy AI agent benchmarks that can't be gamed by waiting longer.”
A web platform for creating, running, and sharing non-gameable benchmarks that focus on verifiable outcomes, multi-turn reasoning quality, and resistance to simple delays or token manipulation.
Core Features
Template library of anti-gaming tasks (hidden timeouts, outcome verification)
Automated scoring with human-verified ground truth
Public leaderboard with raw logs and replay
Weekly Roadmap
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W1-W2
Core benchmark runner with basic anti-gaming safeguards operational.
- •Build task submission UI with timeout controls
- •Implement simple outcome verifier engine
- •Set up user accounts and private benchmark storage
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W3-W4
Anti-gaming task templates and public sharing complete.
- •Add 5 sample tasks targeting time-horizon gaming
- •Develop replay viewer for submitted runs
- •Basic leaderboard backend with raw logs
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W5
Internal testing and dogfooding with 10 AI practitioners.
- •Recruit HN commenters for private beta
- •Polish scoring UI and export features
- •Implement rate limiting and basic analytics
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W6
Public launch with first set of community benchmarks.
- •Stripe integration for paid plans
- •Prepare launch post and demo video
- •Monitor initial signups and feedback
Launch Strategy
Launch on Hacker News and AI Twitter/X with demo benchmarks exposing current time-horizon gaming, target r/MachineLearning and AI Discord communities
RISKS & ASSUMPTIONS
Top Risks
Adoption by skeptical community
HN commenters may view any new benchmark as continuing the hype cycle rather than solving it.
Defining non-gameable tasks
Hard to create tasks that truly resist sophisticated gaming while remaining practical to evaluate.
Low initial content
Needs critical mass of quality benchmarks to be useful; chicken-and-egg problem.
Technical verification complexity
Automatically verifying outcomes and detecting delays requires non-trivial agent sandboxing.
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STAGE 06 · DECISION
Should you build it?
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